Comments on: SCAM ALERT – Adding Hydrogen To Your Gas WON’T Save You Money

By: Jason

Jason — Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:01:45 +0000

Chris, Noizy, Terrance, et. al. – I’ll NEVER, EVER, EVER believe any HHO system could work – EVER – because it breaks the laws of physics.

Besides, if all of you were right and this system really did work, why isn’t someone selling it as standard equipment on a new vehicle? Some gas conspiracy? Right. That’s why Ford, GM, Toyota, etc. all work so hard to improve gas mileage every year to meet federal standards.

This is junk science and a waste of breath.

By: chris columby

chris columby — Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:59:25 +0000

I don’t need to use my battery to power my HHo generators . They run from picking up the ambiant energy flying around in the Engine compartment , produced by the elecrical system and the elecrical field surrounding the engine instead of wasted into the atmosphere , it is picked up by the gens and used to power and produce Hho with no extra load on anything!
What say you?

By: chris columby

chris columby — Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:55:31 +0000

Ifound that even if I forget to ad power( 12v) from the battery, the hho generators continue to operate by absorbing the Ambiant energy that is built up around the Engine compartment.
Inthis case it is not putting an extra load on my alternator. It is utilizing Ambiant Energy thatis is normally wasted in to the atmosphere.
How about that?
hey?

By: Noizy

Noizy — Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:23:11 +0000

It works.. Ive been messing with this for a couple years now. The mason jar design is absolute crap, but i think everyone started out with that. It does produce, but it overheats- quickly. I am currently using dry cells in all my vehicles. The trick wasnt in the production, the trick was to lean your engine out. As you add HHO into your engine, the mixture becomes rich and most newer vehicles would throw a check engine light because it didnt know where it was coming from. Engines would immediately start running smoother too due to the rich mixture- -but no overall improvement in fuel economy. Lean the motor out and add HHO- now you have a smooth running engine and fuel savings.
My v8 pickup truck was originally getting 18mpg hwy. Now it gets 22-25 depending on weather conditions (humid, dry, cold, etc). So the bottom line is – It Works, just not with a jar and there is some fine tuning to do with the motor. If you know about electronics and how to tune an old school carburetor, this knowledge will be very helpful when fine tuning a modern ECU controlled vehicle.

By: Terrance

Terrance — Fri, 05 Nov 2010 07:45:08 +0000

You people are a crack up.

I am no engineer and there are a lot of things I don’t understand and I have learned things the hard way. i.e. jumping off our two story roof with our patio umbrella. (It didn’t work.) When I got older I tried a new and improved bicycle handle bar. I had to ware a cast for 6 weeks after that experiment.
I don’t think I will tell you about running over a snowman early one morning on my way to school. (Tried to impress my new girl friend I was taking to school)She was really impressed when her mother had to come pick us up and take us the rest of the way.

Now I’m older and I made a HHO system. Actually I have made several and from different components. The first one I put into an old Toyota truck. Within minutes the truck ran smother. My gas mileage went from 15 mpg to 16 mpg. within three weeks the wire’s corroded and I blew the fuse. I took it out and I still get 16 mpg. I put another on my Yamaha motorcycle. I increased mileage from a consistent 36 mpg to 39mpg. I started saving lots of $ I was unsure of what to spend it all on. Then something happened to my engine. Now 400 dollars later, I no longer have an HHO hookup on my Bike. Now I must tell you that I didn’t jump off the roof twice, I only had to do that once. What I did do is build another fuel saver. I threw the Mason jar away and got some 6″ pvc pipe and some large pieces of stainless steel tubing. I installed it on diesel pickup truck. I have gone from 14mpg to 20 mpg. ummm Maybe I should take another look at jumping off the roof.

By: Jason

Jason — Tue, 02 Nov 2010 04:03:21 +0000

Dawn – Adding hydrogen to gas *might* work to fool the engine into burning less fuel (emphasize might), but if for sake of argument it did work, it would cause a lean condition. Since carburetor’s can’t self correct a lean condition like fuel injected vehicles, that would cause detonation, pinging, and eventually engine failure.

By: Dawn

Dawn — Mon, 01 Nov 2010 23:15:14 +0000

hey boys I know you guys are into all the arguments about physics law and stuff but here is a question for you, What about cars and trucks that are from 1969-1980 that are not fuel injected. No O2 sensor or computer there. That is what I want to know about. My husband has a 1979 chevy pickup, is it possible to increase fuel efficancy with an HHO generator or not?
I know that you guys will probably argue about this too but i’m haveing fun watching you tear each other’s proverbial throats out.

By: Bruce Simpson

Bruce Simpson — Mon, 01 Nov 2010 03:50:16 +0000

There is no catalytic reaction going on here — if so, please show me the formula and energy states involved in it — I bet you can’t, because it’s not happening.

All the anecdotal “evidence” in the world won’t change the fact that this does not work.

If it did work then there would be cars using this technology rolling off dealers floors right now and we’d all be saving a heap.

What? The oil companies are in a conspiracy to block the auto-makers from doing that?

Then why are all the automakers working right now to bypass gasoline completely without interference from the oil companies?

What about Tesla? How did they get their completely electric vehicle to market if it’s true that the oil companies are conspiring to bury this technology? The HHO stuff just saves (but is still reliant on gas) yet the Tesla is 100% gasoline-free. Surely pure EVs would be a bigger threat to the gas companies than HHO?

And before you say that the EV companies are in bed with the gasoline companies — it’s not true. The bulk of the world’s lithium battery manufacturing is done in China — far beyond the grasp of the oil companies.

And, if this HHO stuff worked, why wouldn’t the Chinese be using it in all their vehicles, given they have no alliances with the oil companies and would love to reduce their reliance on expensive imported fuel?

See… it doesn’t add up at all.

The HHO scammers have no science, no independent credible scientific tests to back up their claims and no clue.

Every single fact proves that HHO is a scam which is at worst, designed to fleece dupes of their hard-earned cash and at best, the result of some self-deluded individuals with no scientific understanding of what’s going on chasing a dream.

Either way — it’s all rubbish.

By: disgruntled republican

disgruntled republican — Mon, 01 Nov 2010 03:17:21 +0000

Bruce, I must say that your logic there is complete BS. You are forgetting that the electricity in this type of reaction is not the main source of the hydrogen, it merely catalyzes the reaction that ends up splitting the atoms. In a smaller scale using a silver nitrate salt solution, a 2004 Honda Odyssey on a regular basis of 2 years was able to go from 28mpg highway to 35mpg highway. The biggest problems with this setup were #1, the purity of the water being used, #2 maintaining the proper molarity of the silver nitrate salt, #3 the reduced performance of the salt as it got older over time, and #4 the frequency that the electrodes needed to be replaced to optimize the reaction.
The individual was not at all concerned with engine life or the amount of money being spent on replenishing the salt, the water, and the electrodes. He was one of those ‘green’ nuts that kept throwing money to reduce the fuel consumed.
Fact is, the science IS extremely solid, the technology IS already available, it IS maintainable even by a pretty boy manager, and it DOES work. However, it is HIGHLY cost ineffective, requires a lot of upkeep, and like everything else in life, becomes LESS effective over time.

By: Bruce Simpson

Bruce Simpson — Sun, 31 Oct 2010 19:40:36 +0000

Disgruntled Republican — the reason that this system is not practical has *nothing* to do with corrosion, the purity of the water, etc, etc.

The reason this system is not practical is simply because no vehicle’s electrical system has the capacity to produce the amount of hydrogen required to create the benefits that have been observed in the laboratory.

The amount of electrical energy needed to create sufficient quantities of gas is an order of magnitude greater than any stock alternator set-up can deliver and even if you were to fit a sufficiently large alternator, the amount of gas used to drive that alternator would exceed the benefits gained by its introduction into the combustion process.

It’s simple physics and chemistry — something that these scammers have absolutely no understanding of.

They work on the basis that they can find studies which show “hydrogen improves combustion efficiency” and another bit of science that shows “hydrogen can be created by the electrolysis of water” — ergo, creating hydrogen from water and injecting it into the engine’s intake *must* improve fuel efficiency.

They fail to factor in the myriad of other science that ankle-taps such naive assumptions.

A little knowledge (as they say) is a dangerous thing.